Saturday, April 26, 2014

CJ Nitkowski has some opinions

Former MLB pitcher/current MLB analyst C.J. Nitkowski has some opinions about the Astros, piggy-backing, and Mark Appel. I'll let him take it from here:



12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't have a strong opinion on Luhnownd the "smartest man in the room" perception that follows him, but it is nice to see some folks question that since he is generally worshipped by so many. It restores some balance and adds a bit of accountability that has been lacking.

Lyle said...

Nitkowski has the responsibility to back up his comments with evidence. He's not holding anyone accountability unless he's got evidence that what he is saying is right.

Anonymous said...

When I was a kid starting pitchers threw every 4 days for 9 innings. Closers pitched a couple of innings every night. So is he saying pitchers are pussies now and should only pitch once a week? What an asshat.

Anonymous said...

Evidence? Sure, he is editorializing about the "we are smarter than everybody else" and the lab rat bit, but the tandem is evidence and the lack of tandem by all other teams is evidence. Like Nitkowski, I also assume the Astros do it because they feel it makes sense and that they know more than the other teams who don't use the tandem. It's almost self evident.

Anonymous said...

The Astros aren't the only team to have used the tandem and I can almost 100% guarantee they won't be the last. Google it if you need "evidence". The Rockies used a modified version at the Major League level just a few years ago.

My question at this point is when did CJ Nitkowski become something of an expert and since when did his opinion really matter? The Astros have been doing things far different than most other teams for a few years. That's not headline news it's old news.

Just another "name" riding the "Bash all things Houston Astros" horse. Enjoy the ride CJ. Hope it gains you more followers on Twitter..

Michael..

Anonymous said...

I would think that 16 years of pitching in professional baseball gives CJ a pretty good idea about what pitchers think. He is an analyst and this is what he thinks. Since he pitched for over 20 different teams I think he just might know what the heck he's talking about. 1oldpro

Anonymous said...

Well thank you so very much for delightfully providing us with his resume. Thank God for Google, right?? Still doesn't make him an expert on all things baseball and pitching (or the Houston Astros). His critical tone is worn out and he's seemingly making a career of saying bad things about My Beloved Astros. Not impressed..

Michael..

Anonymous said...

Michael,
There has hardly been a media, or Internet presence, bashing Luhnow. Maybe bashing Crane, but not Luhnow. In fact, most of Luhnow-related media talk has been positive to glowing, mainly cause he is a SABR darling. I hope he actually is a genius and succeeds, but it is nice to see some criticism. It provides a necessary balance, IMO.

And tandem, good or bad, is a freaking outlier strategy. I don't need google to know that.

maroonedTexan said...

From my understanding the tandem rotation is pretty common in the lower minors. Here's an article from the Reds website that backs that up http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050418&content_id=1019942&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin.

The unique thing the Astros were doing was bringing the tandem up to the AA and AAA level because they had so many starting pitchers the last 2 years they needed to evaluate.

The Appel situation occurred in A ball, it may in part be caused by the tandem rotation but, as I stated, and the above article shows, that isn't something unique to the Astros.

Anonymous said...

Michael, I remember CJ pitching for the Astros, but I also remember Bob Bruce pitching for them. If playing for years and playing with literally thousands of professional baseball players doesn't give someone good prospective on how they think, what does? What if CJ called just fifteen of his buddies and asked them personally what they think about the Astros tandem system and they told him just what they thought. That is something no Astros pitcher in the minors or in the majors is willing to share.
1oldpro

bp1 said...

Has this become the chron.astros.county.com?

Bunch of chron comments bro!!

Anonymous said...

His career 5.37 era makes him an expert lol what an awesome player he was over a 10 wear mlb career. Thank god for Google bc I had no clue who he was.