Thursday, April 25, 2013


Seattle is not happy about dropping a series to the Astros for the second time in this young season. Regard:

Manager Eric Wedge:
"I still feel good about a couple of these guys. I think they're headed in the right direction. That's the positives. ... There are some good things to pull from this, but overall when you get beat like that, when you've got a chance to win a series, it's just something we've got to do a lot better with."

After the game, the Mariners had a closed-door meeting. USS Mariner:
And ultimately you just can’t talk players into being better at baseball. That’s the real problem — the Mariners aren’t good. It doesn’t help that Michael Saunders has been hurt and that Michael Morse might have been playing hurt, but getting yelled at isn’t going to lead to better defense. Getting yelled at isn’t going to have Joe Saunders stop missing his locations. Getting yelled at isn’t going to cause Montero to start recognizing different pitches and their corresponding locations. It’s not a matter of focus or drive. The Mariners, presumably, are always trying to win. But they don’t win enough, because they aren’t good enough, and that’s the principal issue. 

The Seattle Times' Larry Stone is concerned enough that he looked at the historical implications of an 8-15 start.
I realize that 23 games is an arbitrary measuring point. But that’s how many games they’ve played right here and now, when the reality of a season in crisis has hit the hardest by virtue of a terrible road trip capped by losing another series to what was supposed to be the worst team in baseball.

Our old pal Geoff Baker (who got FJM'ed by Trostel a couple of days ago) said:
And even though the team does miss Gutierrez and the injured Michael Saunders, that’s no excuse to have the Houston Astros mop the floor with Seattle the way they did today.

Lookout Landing is so pissed they're taking shots at Minute Maid Park:
What a dumb stadium. You can have a flagpole in the outfield, or you can have a hill in center, or you can construct an artificial home run porch in left, and call any one of them a colorful feature to distinguish your ballpark from everyone else's. Do all three, and you look like the minor league team your roster suggests you are.


Anonymous said...

I agree with Lookout Landing. MMP is awful. It's a good place to watch a game, but my god is it ugly. They didn't even mention the train or the ridiculous ad board in left.

The Batguy said...

I think the Mariners are what some fans wanted Houston to be this year: A bad team fooled into thinking they're contenders because they added a couple of names.

The Astros knew they were going to be bad, and dipping their toe in the shallow end of the free agent pool wasn't going to change that. While we're spending money on player development and scouting, the Mariners are spending money on Aaron Harang, Mike Morse, Kendrys Morales, Brendan Ryan, and Raul Ibanez. Those five alone are making $25M this season.

Imasalmon said...

Reactions like this are why I love MMP. I love it when opposing teams' fans gripe about the hill. I love it when they gripe about the short porch. Their fury fills my heart with glee.

Terence said...

Our next 20 games are @Bos, @NYY, Det, LAA, Tex, @ Det. This is going to be the best morning we have for quite some while, enjoy it while it lasts.

Unknown said...

The Mariners are now the Astros of two years ago. They need to accept that and move on.

Anonymous said...

The Mariners are hardly the Astros of two years ago, and signing some low-level free agents during the interim has nothing to do with their future success. The argument that dollars spent on low-level free agents are dollars that have to be taken away from scouting and development is pure strawman.

Anonymous said...

The point is that those low level free agents obviously don't contribute to your record. So why waste that money and block younger players?

The Batguy said...

A quick google search turns up two articles that would indicate that my argument is not, in fact, a strawman.

That said, feel free to show me proof that this is not the case. Unlike some, I'm capable of changing my views if and when new information is brought to my attention.

Anonymous said...

We'll be listening to this crap from other teams all year long, trying to be cute while gloating about crushing the AAA Lastros, and whining when they somehow lose a game or a series to them.....good reminder that those who can do, and those who can't become sportswriters.....

Anonymous said...

Honestly, all I see in those articles is Brisbee positing that the Royals could have not signed Santana and used that money on a Brazil Academy. Well, they could do both. Many teams do.

We also have the self-serving comment from Crane acting as if it is a choice between player development and free agents. One might argue this is just an excuse for a league low payroll.

There are most likely many teams who have bigger payrolls than the Astros AND spend just as much (if not more) on development. Therefore, people advocating for a larger payroll are not advocating for reduced player development.