Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Assessing the deal

There's not going to be a whole lot here that you haven't likely already perused, but let's give this a shot:

*This is another win for Jeff Luhnow. Quintero was clearly the C3 on the roster, and Bourgeois was rendered...not useless, but expendable, by Jordan Schafer. Thing is, the Astros have a few players on the roster who can do what Bourgeois does. Quintero, while he has the 11th-best Caught Stealing percentage among active catchers (32.2%), he also averaged a 60 OPS+ from 2008-11. Bourgeois had a career-high .680 OPS in 2011, but from August 1-end of season, he hit .225/.265/.252. The fact that the Astros flipped them for a Down The Road ML-caliber reliever and another potential prospect is a good thing.

*Like many trades we've seen in the past two years, it's just going to take a while to know for sure. Chapman, and the PTBNL (whom Jordan Sams, via TCB, speculates on here) aren't likely to be ready to see Big League action...maybe until late 2013.

*With the departure of Quintero, Wandy Rodriguez is the only remaining Astro who touched the field in the World Series season of 2005.


Anonymous said...

Actually, if one values speed, or values a defensive backup at center, the Astros don't have a few players on the roster who can do what Bourgeois does.

Anonymous said...

You're right on the speed front but wrong on defense. J.B. was very mediocre defensively-- often taking poor routes. Shuck is pretty similar.

Anonymous said...

I should have been more specific. Bourgeois is not a defensive backup at center in the sense that he he a plus defender, he is just a defensive backup with no equal on the present roster. He might even be a mediocre defender, but he is still a far better defender than Shuck. That will become apparent if Shuck plays much in center.

Astros County said...

But if Jordan Schafer is what he *could be* - then he'll ideally be playing 140-150 games in center, right? I know there's a lot of Ifs there (Schafer's history of health included), but it doesn't sound like the plan for CF will include Shuck too much.

Anonymous said...

I agree.

I basically agree with the analysis of the trade, in that the Astros gave up replacement level players for some potential, I was just disagreeing with the author who wrote that that Bourgeois could be replaced with someone on the current roster. I just don't see that someone.

Blazemule said...

Honestly Bourgeois and Shuck are both about equal to me, I can do without Bourgeois and Quintero for some prospects. How Luhnow pulled off a trade to get back value for easily replaced players is beyond me, but I am glad for it. I hope that they carry 5 outfielders (J.D. Martinez (R) LF, Schafer (L) CF, F. Martinez (L) RF as the starters and Bogusevic (L) and Shuck (L) as the 4th and 5th. I don't feel like we need a right handed hitting outfielder to platoon, just let these guys play they are the best we have, we don't need a Jason Michaels 2.0 out there.