Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Philly could include Dominic Brown

Jim Salisbury says that the Phillies may be willing to include right-fielder Dom Brown in a package for Hunter Pence:

Pat Gillick:
“A club like ours will probably have to be prepared to overpay a little."

Charlie Manuel:
“We are in a have-to-win position. It would be tough to turn some guys loose and have them play every day. I don’t mind playing them. But there has to be an understanding that if we’re trying to develop players at the major-league level, it’s hard to win the World Series.”

10 comments:

Rhombus67 said...

Keep on trying for Domonic Brown Wade... If you can't get him then settle for Singleton, Cosart & a 3rd prospect at the deadline (hopefully if it's still available). I would love Pence for Brown & someone like Jesse Biddle. It wouldn't tear apart the Phillies farm system and the 'Stros would get tons of upside. win-win. The bottom line is this Astros team is awful and it won't get better w/out making significant changes. Hunter Pence is the solution ... and I don't mean him playing on our team.

Despite my comments ... let me say that I love Pence... I just want to watch and root for a winner more!

Anonymous said...

If Philly does offer Brown then their saying "they dont care if they lose brown. Houston has been down this road with Philly before where Wade thinks hes getting some good players and they suck..as in Oswalt deal. Brown is not going to be anything great! Philly is playing with Wade again like a little boy.

Hal said...

It's too early to say that Wade was ripped off in the Oswalt trade.

OremLK said...

Brown has superstar potential. They refused to part with him for Oswalt or any of their other aces.

Anonymous said...

What exactly about Brown shows superstar potential. I agree that he looks to be a good player, but I don't see anything in his stat line that oozes superstar. Injuries seem to be a slight concern. His strikeout rate in the majors (albeit small sample size) seems to be a slight concern. The fact that he is pretty much considered to be major league ready and supposedly has a floor of Hunter Pence but is still being considered to be traded for Hunter Pence is a slight concern. What has Brown done to sour the Phillies to where there once untouchable prospect is now considered touchable for a guy in Hunter Pence (no offense HP we love you here in HTown) who is obviously of lesser talent than Halladay, Cliff Lee, and even Roy O. Its safe to say that Dominic Brown concerns me slightly.

OremLK said...

Because he has ridiculous tools. He could be a .300/.400/.500 player with 15-20 SB and above average defense in a corner outfield position in his prime. Stats aren't everything and he's only scratched the surface of his potential at the ML level. I would do Brown for Pence straight up in a heartbeat if I were in Wade's shoes.

OremLK said...

Also, to answer your question of why they would part with him for Pence when they wouldn't for Halladay, Lee, or Oswalt: Pence is 28 years old and is under relatively inexpensive team control for the next 2.5 seasons.

That increases his value substantially compared to an older starting pitcher you're going to pay in excess of $16-25M per season to have on your team.

Also, Pence is about as good of a player as Roy Oswalt (at this point in Oswalt's career).

Anonymous said...

Fair enough. I realize stats aren't everything and I'm sure Brown would be great if we got him. I guess since our pitching depth is as weak as it is I was really wanting top pitching prospects for Pence. If a deal went to the Phillies then I was really hoping for two of Cosart and either Biddle, Colvin, or May. Pence is our best chance at bringing in a haul of top prospect quality pitching and Brown lowers the chances that the Astros get any pitching in a Pence deal. I'm not sold on the fact that any team will give the true value for Bourn since his value is tied to his complete game versus the coveted power. Wandy and Myers big contracts have already been discussed in great detail so I wont rehash that, but I was just a little worrisome about where we are going to get our pitching from. Maybe that's what the Keppinger trade accomplished. (Joking)

AstroBrit said...

We're not going to get 2 out of Cosart, Colvin, Biddle or May. That's just not going to happen.

Anonymous said...

I could see it happening if they chose to build the trade around pitching and not Brown or Singleton, but your probably right.